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| Member | tsc4wd 27.12.2012 13:13 Posts 3 |
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| Message Edit 16:42 - 27.12.2012 user tsc4wd
Hallmarks she does not have. |
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| Participant | Val1730 Ukraine 27.12.2012 13:40 Posts 1252 |
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| Very similar to the lighter that was produced in Ukraine Mr. Amounts |
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| Member | Wassia 27.12.2012 16:02 Posts 28 |
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| A y my "bottom" is |
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| Member | tsc4wd 28.12.2012 13:57 Posts 3 |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 15:22 Posts 1340 |
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| tsc4wd wrote: I probably fake.
The USSR did not fakes, many of which produced unbranded, so it's okay :)) |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 16:36 Posts 1780 |
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| unnit writes: tsc4wd wrote: I probably fake.
The USSR did not fakes, many of which produced unbranded, so it's okay :))
But what if Sneakers Adidas? Dad worked in the union, I do not know what the name says everything Cros in Moscow riveting :-) By zhigam this does not apply :-) |
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| Participant | Yuzer_Zyu Moscow 28.12.2012 17:26 Posts 1675 |
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| Message Edit 17:27 - 28.12.2012 user Yuzer_Zyu
at the beginning and end of the eighties were purchased license first to Adidas Athens (low classic three-strip), and then how the joint project was a few years old, made such a little higher I do not remember the model was called and finally went without a name by mistake probably made a very quality - I like that I bought a pair of worn in winter and summer for three years, threw tries because nothing happened to them, and there was no reason to change the shoes ... and these lighters (except ZG20 Lenemalerovskoy seem) is not just a fake and brazenly crooked and stupid skradenye model ... those that unbranded even the most honest, and when the model stolen from factories Fyodor wrote Vatra as that damn awkward out ... |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 17:57 Posts 1340 |
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| Yuzer_Zyu writes: at the beginning and end of the eighties were purchased license first to Adidas Athens (low classic three-strip), and then how the joint project was a few years old, made such a little higher I do not remember the model was called and finally went without a name by mistake probably made a very quality - I like that I bought a pair of worn in winter and summer for three years, threw tries because nothing happened to them, and there was no reason to change the shoes ... and these lighters (except ZG20 Lenemalerovskoy seem) is not just a fake and brazenly crooked and stupid skradenye model ... those that unbranded even the most honest, and when the model stolen from factories Fyodor wrote Vatra as that damn awkward out ...
Ure, I know that our lighters were torn off, and when he wrote that there was no forgery, it meant that our manufacturing plants did not steal from each other lighter models that would produce on their company and earn some money. |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 18:24 Posts 1780 |
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| unnit writes: Yuzer_Zyu writes:
Ure, I know that our lighters were torn off, and when he wrote that there was no forgery, it meant that our manufacturing plants did not steal from each other lighter models that would produce on their company and earn some money.
Duc clear that tyrili not at :-) copying the west, although we tyrili and west from each other, too, no less tyrili |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 18:27 Posts 1780 |
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| Yuzer_Zyu writes:
those that unbranded even the most honest, and when the model stolen from factories Fyodor wrote Vatra as that damn awkward out ...
Vatra Bulgaria produced, what we ascribe to someone else stealing? :-( |
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| Member | Wassia 28.12.2012 18:38 Posts 28 |
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| kirasa writes: unnit writes: Yuzer_Zyu writes:
Ure, I know that our lighters were torn off, and when he wrote that there was no forgery, it meant that our manufacturing plants did not steal from each other lighter models that would produce on their company and earn some money.
Duc clear that tyrili not at :-) copying the west, although we tyrili and west from each other, too, no less tyrili
Friends moi- though fake, but still in kollektsyyu. Think about - is origial and ryadom- 5.6 pieces sraznymi stamps or without |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 18:53 Posts 1340 |
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| Wassia writes:
Friends moi- though fake, but still in kollektsyyu. Think about - is origial and ryadom- 5.6 pieces sraznymi stamps or without
The collection of all useful mnya Zippo lyuminevaya there, I know that they did not, well, let it be :)) |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 18:54 Posts 1780 |
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| Wassia writes: kirasa writes: unnit writes: Yuzer_Zyu writes:
Ure, I know that our lighters were torn off, and when he wrote that there was no forgery, it meant that our manufacturing plants did not steal from each other lighter models that would produce on their company and earn some money.
Duc clear that tyrili not at :-) copying the west, although we tyrili and west from each other, too, no less tyrili
Friends moi- though fake, but still in kollektsyyu. Think about - is origial and ryadom- 5.6 pieces sraznymi stamps or without
This is not a fake, just let the same thing in different plants, one decided to save on stamps, more likely someone snatched denyushku for saving :-) |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 19:01 Posts 1780 |
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| unnit writes: Wassia writes:
Friends moi- though fake, but still in kollektsyyu. Think about - is origial and ryadom- 5.6 pieces sraznymi stamps or without
The collection of all useful mnya Zippo lyuminevaya there, I know that they did not, well, let it be :))
About BA on, nuka- Nuka to detail heard had a bad experience at the Zippo, they released lyuminku, and she went and became the Zippo, super duper rare thing, and maybe it was a joke, it is necessary to learn from zippolyubov |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 19:05 Posts 1340 |
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| kirasa writes:
About BA on, nuka- Nuka to detail heard had a bad experience at the Zippo, they released lyuminku, and she went and became the Zippo, super duper rare thing, and maybe it was a joke, it is necessary to learn from zippolyubov
Not Cyrus, this is exactly the left, showed Vladimir Kupehinu, the stigma is, as expected, but on any normal insert the die. |
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| Participant | kirasa Moscow 28.12.2012 19:15 Posts 1780 |
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| unnit writes: kirasa writes:
About BA on, nuka- Nuka to detail heard had a bad experience at the Zippo, they released lyuminku, and she went and became the Zippo, super duper rare thing, and maybe it was a joke, it is necessary to learn from zippolyubov
Not Cyrus, this is exactly the left, showed Vladimir Kupehinu, the stigma is, as expected, but on any normal insert the die.
The insert could die and simply replaced the former owner. Although if Vladimir said, the dispute is not booming. While at the bottom of the photo I would have looked |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 19:19 Posts 1340 |
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| Message Edit 19:57 - 28.12.2012 user unnit
kirasa writes:
The insert could die and simply replaced the former owner. Although if Vladimir said, the dispute is not booming. While at the bottom of the photo I would have looked
I can throw the pictures when Nuno, prroblem know :)) |
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| Participant | Yuzer_Zyu Moscow 28.12.2012 19:45 Posts 1675 |
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| Sash, clear, current as our factories to steal from each other, when all the original models were stale from the west? it is clear that they could be super lazy inzhenegry, copy Vatra not with Fedor and from Vatra (incidentally Cyrus no no Bulgaria Vatra doing what the Ukrainian town, I forget right now, but Bulgaria is not), and Ibelo not to Ibelo and with a twinkle but it's like a thief a thief stolen stole ... and disappointments and losses battered holder of the original patent, and not the surrounding kopipaster ... in our socialism were all equal, and though some were more equal than others, manufacturers of consumer goods is not concerned, as also all Toko manufacturers were propaganda, ideology, slogans and peace in the world tries ... |
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| Participant | unnit Moscow 28.12.2012 20:08 Posts 1340 |
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| Yuzer_Zyu writes: Sash, clear, current as our factories to steal from each other, when all the original models were stale from the west? it is clear that they could be super lazy inzhenegry, copy Vatra not with Fedor and from Vatra (incidentally Cyrus no no Bulgaria Vatra doing what the Ukrainian town, I forget right now, but Bulgaria is not), and Ibelo not to Ibelo and with a twinkle but it's like a thief a thief stolen stole ... and disappointments and losses battered holder of the original patent, and not the surrounding kopipaster ... in our socialism were all equal, and though some were more equal than others, manufacturers of consumer goods is not concerned, as also all Toko manufacturers were propaganda, ideology, slogans and peace in the world tries ...
Well, I had in mind, exhibited a lighter unbranded it original, just began to produce lighter on what a military factory as a sideline products, and where to advertise can not be produced. |
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| Participant | Val1730 Ukraine 29.12.2012 12:15 Posts 1252 |
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| Yuzer_Zyu writes: Sash, clear, current as our factories to steal from each other, when all the original models were stale from the west? it is clear that they could be super lazy inzhenegry, copy Vatra not with Fedor and from Vatra (incidentally Cyrus no no Bulgaria Vatra did what the Ukrainian town, I forget right now, but Bulgaria is not)
I'm wildly sorry, but this city is called the Lions :) |
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