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Dunhill Rollagas gas leak

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

5:40 26.12.2013

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Message Edit 5:53 - 26.12.2013 Rolling user


Hi everyone

Not long ago he came to me Lighter Duhhill Rollagas old model's 80 probably works well, but noticed that the gas loses 2-3 days of use.


if you take the lighter in the closed state and bring it to the place where the ear drum (and slightly above) which krutish to ignite heard a faint hiss (leakage) of gas

I understand that when the lighter closed cushion in the lid of the lighter pressure on the nozzle valve outlet (which goes up and down), thereby blocking the valve, so that's when the lighter is open if the pressure on the nozzle outlet valve by hand (do not know how much strongly in contrast to the pressure cap ) hissing gas disappears

as earlier with I do not want to ask a question faced

1) Could it be that during the life of a spring which presses on the pad in the lid has weakened?

and now not strong enough pressure on the nozzle valve to completely block the flow of gas

please help razobratsya what to do

if you need any further information then please ask

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Yuzer_Zyu

Moscow

7:51 26.12.2013

Posts 1640

Hi!

yes of course, anything can be, with time everything wears out, these lighters still the best ... Do you want to repair by yourself? If kopnete forum can dig deeper links to the patents (or find themselves in a network) to this or similar lighters, there schemes realize they have everything inside works. usually not "pad in the cover 'case and rubber" heel "which actually plugs the capillary from which the gas (planted on the other, the lower end of the burner) ...

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

26.12.2013 23:29

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Unfortunately as I know the workshop or master lighters in our town is not, this will have to repair yourself.

finding employment is not the first day, yet managed to find a current picture here

if I understand correctly the gas tube is here at No. 30, you said that perhaps worn rubber "heel", but this shows the whole gas tube, like as not one folding element, that is, if the wear heels the whole tube for a replacement?

More I noticed a moment

on the idea that the nozzle abuts against the pad cover must upiratsya precisely on its center (or it does not matter? at least another danhile newer it clearly center)

and I get that tip rests with the deviation from the center (maybe because of the small deviations lost that portion of a millimeter which give the necessary emphasis on the nose? as I wrote above if pressure on the nose by hand the leakage is not observed)

Toli Toli tube is slightly oblique in the assembly that is not properly done

if we pay attention to the slit protrudes from the burner tube, then it danhiln newer otsentrovanna (no not clamped to one end of the slot), and in this lighter, it abuts against the one end of the slot

The photo shows an arrow with a burner tube that rested at the end of the slot


probyval screwdriver bit to move the tube, but it returned to its original location

Do not know exactly what to do if someone is not difficult to lay out or refer to any information on assembly / disassembly, the patent would be very grateful, etc.

Just wanted to hear reasons why experienced lutshe start, and what to do, if you reason pytatsya razobratsya yourself?

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unnit

Moscow

00:00 27/12/2013

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Message Edit 00:02 - 27/12/2013 User unnit


Hi! Looked circuit under №30 - is not a gas tube, a gas regulator and the burner under №25. Patents looked at, Danhily there, but benzinovye.Razobrat possible, but if you have never engaged in repairing lighters, will be difficult to put everything in place. Circuits are very small, and fly out of the hands nars. Again, little need knockout that would knock the small-diameter rubber heel, a suitable rubber, etc. I would advise to give to the master who was repairing, otherwise you can ruin a lighter.


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Yuzer_Zyu

Moscow

00:20 27/12/2013

Posts 1640

"Heel" in Scheme 35, and she is not with the burner working here as a regulator, it Rollagaz Well, they have a little special scheme, yes. Still can complain pads 28, 32, 33 and 39 - if they have to change to dried and fresh from disposable lighters with regulators (or elsewhere nadybat) heels for 35 yes Special rubber is needed, but you will find, if thou shalt seek and make a drift (die-cutting ) - or you can buy where shoemakers tools for selling, choose a suitable diameter ... and that the city is not written in the profile? what city?

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unnit

Moscow

11:23 27/12/2013

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Yuzer_Zyu writes: "heel" in Scheme 35, and she is not with the burner working here as a regulator, it Rollagaz Well, they have a little special scheme, yes. Still can complain pads 28, 32, 33 and 39 - if they have to change to dried and fresh from disposable lighters with regulators (or elsewhere nadybat) heels for 35 yes Special rubber is needed, but you will find, if thou shalt seek and make a drift (die-cutting ) - or you can buy where shoemakers tools for selling, choose a suitable diameter ... and that the city is not written in the profile? what city?


Ure, heel on the chart №35 can not rest on the spring.

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Yuzer_Zyu

Moscow

15:41 27/12/2013

Posts 1640

Well, it's the other end, Sasha? where the spring. And it plugs the other side, the bottom, right?

and you, Mr. Rolling better listen to Sasha, he is more in my topic repairs ... I can easily go wrong ...

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

14:41 29/12/2013

Posts 7

Hello

Well, as I understand it, without disassembling the experience of such complex structures s top most not Suwat, and try to find Mastro to begin with, so that's what I said earlier in Chelyabinsk I found branded master, but he thought that there is any melkosrochny repair, watch repair, etc. I would like to Does it make sense to know when to seek among those masters and trust it lighter or repair lighters narrow qualifications and repairers hours etc. is not?

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Yuzer_Zyu

Moscow

20:12 29/12/2013

Posts 1640

Message Edit 20:17 - 29/12/2013 User Yuzer_Zyu


Chelyabinsk is quite an industrial town, for sure there are guys who cuts the thread.

Such a degree as a technician lighters virtually non-existent in Moscow 5-6 people are engaged in a professional, but in the company's service can Dunhill Toko send to England for repairs - and that six months or a year ... experience does not take out of nowhere, all as the start, if the vision is good and shaking hands - go ahead! you and the scheme is, as everything is arranged, read our magazine, forum proshtudiruyte - all poluchitsa I think. in the journal (in one of the rooms here can swing http://yuzerzyu.jimdo.com/) such as the oldest Moscow zazhigalochny wizard described how he learned to repair a lighter - and he did not have any schemes and advisers, and internet Toko years later 25 appeared in Russia, just when disassembling each step carefully sketched, Circuits not scatter, everything down - today you can blankly at the camera or phone to photograph everything neatly with voice commentary ... then collect. In the worst case - still you have it really does not work, but at best - will be the first in the southern Urals professional repair gas Dunhill!

and the guys in the "Locksmith" yes, ask if there is someone who repairs lighters you definitely prompt in Moscow a real wizard also sit in these get-togethers, corporate services (and of the one-two - Dunhill, Dupont, Cartier, and everything) really nicho not mending, Toko Circuits can tusanutsya ...

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

2:23 30.12.2013

Posts 7

Message Edit 3:15 - 30.12.2013 Rolling user


But there is somebody who had engaged in repair danhilov? clarify did say so.

I understand how the first step is to try to change the O-rings and filter woolen №31 sort (found such a repair kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/dunhill-ROLLAGAS.....2ecb329847 ), rings under the numbers 3 and 35 ?

that is, the lighter of 3 sealing rings? just renovated the whole kit is targeted to replace 3 uplotnitelnyhz rings?

Here are found the photo of the burner dismantled, it turns out that rezenovoy heels no, ring

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Yuzer_Zyu

Moscow

30.12.2013 17:44

Posts 1640

Message Edit 17:45 - 30.12.2013 user Yuzer_Zyu


I myself went through a gas Dunhill, but another model, Sasha Unnit possible repairing such other guys even (perhaps themselves otzovutsa), there is still a pro, but it is not chopped in the forum, does not like networking hangouts, in years ... people have to finally repair kit Smokin 'will. there certainly is a detailed diagram and description prilagatstsa process technology. then lay out all otskanit napotrebu example!

and the heel is possible imprinted in the straight pin

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

01.01.2014 20:08

Posts 7

Message Edit 21:36 - 01.01.2014 Rolling user


Welcome and congratulations to New Year

Please take a look here's a video and say to gallop effective or could be harmful way to clean the burner for Dunhill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbKo3b9SSRU

remarked one rollagas sometimes open the lid zazhesh flames and height of 1.5 cm for example, you close and open the back zazhesh sometimes flame height increases by another 1 cm, it can be due to lung clogging burner?


Lighter way of which there is a discussion of the day lying on the side of 4 (and generally kept standing), today took elated her and noticed that the joint between the lid and the body came a little oil (it is lubricated with about 3-4 months ago, maybe too much?). here I had a question whether excess oil could get to the pads and how the leakproof?

as I have a version that the leak is not constant, and a brief time (as I said above, after use of the lighter closed it heard the hiss of gas at the site where the drum which krutish spark for excision (somewhere in the upper part as we can and I am mistaken) and somewhere in half an hour hiss disappears

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Rolling

Chelyabinsk

10:50 19/01/2014

Posts 7

Message Edit 11:33 - 01/22/2014 Rolling user


Good afternoon

noticed that one rollagas open the lid zazhesh flames and height of 1.5 cm for example, you close and open the back zazhesh sometimes flame height increases by another 1 cm, it may be due to light or clogging of the burner air inside the tank?

tell AMP-hundred often seen that the Old before filling (to remove air from the tank) need to control the gas supply to the minimum and push otvertochki a couple of times on the charging valve to remove the air from the tank. So some say others do not have to. if not difficult to tell about your thoughts on the matter

More question what oil you use to lubricate machinery, weapons or suitable for sewing machines for instance?

There Dunhill S would like it to grease but since he has another gas, hence the reasonable question whether it is possible to grease the mechanism of gas supply (the red arrow pointed) or should not do it? and how to clean the lighter s top of a deposit (ear swab soaked in gasoline?)

you're sorry I'm so meticulous, it would be desirable for more than just part of toreticheskoy experienced.

By the way, why Online Encyclopedia no Dunhill S?


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unnit

Moscow

20:07 19/01/2014

Posts 1318

Welcome Rolling, about the removal of the air .. I think this should bother to, you can lubricate the lighter, fit and oil from the sewing machine and rifle. Where the drawn arrow can be lubricated, there is a spring in the glass.

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Eugenweber

21:25 28/04/2014

Posts 35

Rolling writes:

Hi everyone

Not long ago he came to me Lighter Duhhill Rollagas old model's 80 probably works well, but noticed that the gas loses 2-3 days of use.


if you take the lighter in the closed state and bring it to the place where the ear drum (and slightly above) which krutish to ignite heard a faint hiss (leakage) of gas

I understand that when the lighter closed cushion in the lid of the lighter pressure on the nozzle valve outlet (which goes up and down), thereby blocking the valve, so that's when the lighter is open if the pressure on the nozzle outlet valve by hand (do not know how much strongly in contrast to the pressure cap ) hissing gas disappears

as earlier with I do not want to ask a question faced

1) Could it be that during the life of a spring which presses on the pad in the lid has weakened?

and now not strong enough pressure on the nozzle valve to completely block the flow of gas

please help razobratsya what to do

if you need any further information then please ask


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Eugenweber

21:28 28/04/2014

Posts 35

Eugenweber writes:

Rolling writes:

Hi everyone

Not long ago he came to me Lighter Duhhill Rollagas old model's 80 probably works well, but noticed that the gas loses 2-3 days of use.


if you take the lighter in the closed state and bring it to the place where the ear drum (and slightly above) which krutish to ignite heard a faint hiss (leakage) of gas

I understand that when the lighter closed cushion in the lid of the lighter pressure on the nozzle valve outlet (which goes up and down), thereby blocking the valve, so that's when the lighter is open if the pressure on the nozzle outlet valve by hand (do not know how much strongly in contrast to the pressure cap ) hissing gas disappears

as earlier with I do not want to ask a question faced

1) Could it be that during the life of a spring which presses on the pad in the lid has weakened?

and now not strong enough pressure on the nozzle valve to completely block the flow of gas

please help razobratsya what to do

if you need any further information then please ask


priwet, wsem kto mozhet pomo4 takaja zhe zazhigalka, i takaezhe problema, razobral wsö no nepoimu rabotu regulerovki plameni. zaranie spasibo


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Eugenweber

21:30 28/04/2014

Posts 35

remontiroval dupont paru raz tak tam wsö jasno, as dunhellom razabratsja nemogu


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unnit

Moscow

21:41 28/04/2014

Posts 1318

Eugenweber writes:

remontiroval dupont paru raz tak tam wsö jasno, as dunhellom razabratsja nemogu



When gas poisons from the top of the valve, it is not in the spring, and in the sealing sleeve which is mounted in the valve. When you press the nozzle to sit on the gum and shuts off the gas. With prolonged use, tires lose ellastichnogo and become very hard as glass. In short, it is necessary to replace the collar and all.

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Eugenweber

22:05 28/04/2014

Posts 35

unnit writes:

Eugenweber writes:

remontiroval dupont paru raz tak tam wsö jasno, as dunhellom razabratsja nemogu



When gas poisons from the top of the valve, it is not in the spring, and in the sealing sleeve which is mounted in the valve. When you press the nozzle to sit on the gum and shuts off the gas. With prolonged use, tires lose ellastichnogo and become very hard as glass. In short, it is necessary to replace the collar and all.


spasibo za bistrij otwet, kak ja ponel mne nado razobrat nommer 30 polnostij, tam i stoit eta manzheta,

a dlja 4evo s boku krutit eö

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Eugenweber

22:06 28/04/2014

Posts 35

eto nommer 5 on tolko peredvigaet nommer 30 na levo ili naprawo

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