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Yuri

30-11-2009 23:46

Finally !!! Great idea, all very well, but it would be desirable to see something (and preferably something good) about domestic lighters It is known that since 1942, engaged in manufacturing lighters Gorpromkombinat Vologda, Chelyabinsk Gortrest, Zlatoust CHP Gorprom Kazan, Tatar Rayprom plant "New builder" Leningrad, in Moscow to such enterprises include: Watch Factory (Railway RPT), metal products factory (Kiev RPT), a workshop on anti-corrosion coating (Leninsky RPT), a garment factory №4, plant strollers ( Soviet RPT), metal products factory (red RPT), and of course the "Spark".

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kypexin

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30-11-2009 23:51

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Yuri, I have great pleasure to write on this topic, but I need a specialist who would be consulted, and of course would share photographs. Unfortunately, in terms of Soviet lighters I have very large gaps in knowledge and collection. Can you help? :)

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Yurii

01.12.2009 00:03

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Uh, to be honest did not expect such a dirty trick Улыбаюсь . Lighters collect only about a year so decent photos yet, but what about information - than I can - help, of course.

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kypexin

Moscow

01.12.2009 1:57

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Yuri, while I wait from you the story - let's start to collect information that you know. Who, when and what kind of lighters produced. If there is something you have in the collection - show off :)

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Yurii

01.12.2009 23:15

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Well, I thought it would be in the spirit of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," the narrator of me, I think no ...

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Yurii

14.12.2009 15:35

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Message Edit 16:11 - 14.12.2009 user Yurii


Lighters factory "Spark"

This lighter in design and appearance resembles (one might even say copies) lighters firms Ibelo (Kreisler) .In its design uses the ignition mechanism, known as the slide-o-matic (like so))). When you click on it kak would slide down, pulling the protective cap for the wick, causing the wheel to rotate, which in turn ignites fitil.Da it all - at the touch of a button! Can be separately noted that a similar mechanism is used in lighters company «Zunder» (model Duplex and Standart), »Mylflam» and others. Despite the relative 'complexity' 'devices these lighters are very tenacious and often occur. (By the way, "Spark" always' 'spreadable' sole with a cross and not rounded like a Ibelo, and how-to cut faces).

Were carried out in 50 - 70 years and are perhaps one of the most popular domestic petrol lighters. Issued; to memorable events (flight, Gagarin Vostok), the anniversary of the Great October Revolution, opening the Exhibition Center, with views of Moscow and other subjects.

All figures are made in the technique gravirovki.Odni quite complex, others resemble its simplicity and accessibility of the style of the "Soviet" poster (currently met by about 15 variations) .In addition produced lighters and other plant "Spark", but about them next time) )).

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Yurii

14.12.2009 15:48

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kypexin

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14.12.2009 15:53

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Oh! Yay! :) :) A start Yuri, thank you! I will do an article on the website and wait for the new :)

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Yurii

14.12.2009 16:00

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I would have thrown more photos, I'm not sorry))) only once this long here. would you have done here that -nibud type-mail and I would be thrown back all together))) "Burn After Reading"

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kypexin

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14.12.2009 16:05

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Yurii wrote: I would have thrown more photos, I'm not sorry))) only once this long here. would you have done here that -nibud type-mail and I would be thrown back all together))) "Burn After Reading"


uh :) vm@vintagelighters.ru :)

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Yurii

14.12.2009 16:09

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ok !!! Now everything is easier)))

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Hartman

15.12.2009 14:43

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Message Edit 14:48 - 15.12.2009 user Hartman


Yurii writes:

Lighters factory "Spark"

This lighter in design and appearance resembles (one might even say copies) lighters firms Ibelo (Kreisler) ....


Yuri, refinement - yet still not Ibelo (aka Jbelo) and Kreisler himself, but - Colibri model Monopol.

The fact that Jbelo was founded by brothers Julius and Benno Lowenthal, in Germany, shortly after the war. Later? in 1928, because of which below, the company has been "rediscovered" as Colibri, just a little later, in 1933 Colibri moved to London and became a branch Jbelo Colibri in Germany. And the reason for the separation was a brand that was to Colibri was decided to tie a patent on the mechanism of ignition, that's the same, yes.

After the war Jbelo produced all the same Colibri Monopol under its own brand. It was interesting that the earliest instances labeled as Jbelo Monopol made in W. Germany US. Zone, they are quite rare and usually jammed outrageously.

Samozhe production Colibri was soredotocheno in Ireland somewhere before the end of the '60s and in Germany. Moreover, the German factory label their products and how Colibri and how Jbelo.

Kreisler same - it ts OEM product for the US market, jewelry and Accessory Firm, which under the brand in the US market since 1952, moved Lighter Colibri. It is interesting that some of these Colibri by Kreisler, even going to the United States, although most of all is to be done at the factory in Germany.


But in the Soviet design, traditionally skopisvizdili. Business then - before the war factory in Tbilisi vosyu stamped copy of IMCO, it habitual.

It is interesting that until the mid-60s, Soviet lighters were either copies IMCO different models or copies of Colibri, or, even more fun - copies of the German Karl Weden aka KW (plus, so far without it - copies Ronson Adonis). Only Riga factory arson nipadetstski very creative approach to the idea of ​​copying - REPAIRED part of Riga lighters are more or less original.


Such cases. :)


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Yurii

15.12.2009 20:49

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Yes, sorry, of course Jbelo (Franktfurt, to be exact, and all the same Beno, and not Benno and Wieden and not Weden) .delo that produced Jbelo Monopol and Colibri Monopol and released their one company, so it does not matter. This model was made about 30 years and was made about 20 million. Lighters.

And about how you say "skopisvizdili" can create a separate topic: Bowers at Imco; CMC, Prince, Omega at Ronson; Thorens in Nassau itp etc.

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Hartman

15.12.2009 21:38

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Yurii writes:

Yes, sorry, of course Jbelo (Franktfurt, to be exact, and all the same Beno, and not Benno and Wieden and not Weden) .delo that produced Jbelo Monopol and Colibri Monopol and released their one company, so it does not matter. This model was made about 30 years and was made about 20 million. Lighters.

And about how you say "skopisvizdili" can create a separate topic: Bowers at Imco; CMC, Prince, Omega at Ronson; Thorens in Nassau itp etc.



Thank you for the correction. By the way, exactly the same mechanism blagopolochno migrated and gas lighters, even more or less sovermennye Colibri S23 / Autoflint / Executive / Mini Jbelo M23 and mechanism of their genius, "descent" very smooth and without effort, much as gasoline keeps month ... back tucked favorite (I'm wrong collector, I love to use their lighters, if they get to me already use) Irish Colibri Monopol still working on the filling, not exhausted at all. It's funny, by the way, that the Germans called Jbelo solely as Ibelo and nothing else - and in the English version Jbelo or wrongly - Fbelo. Postwar Japanese - a single song, funny. And Ronson pleaded with them and they had the audacity and united, sued Ronson - about the fact that Ronson lighters cornered the market in the United States. Ronson Court won both times. :) After the court Sarome make a quantum leap and launched a series Cruiser, Bluebird and Elegance. The then Japanese cool reminds me of the Chinese today, by the way. And then there is my favorite Mosda - an interesting combination for Ronson and Zippo firing mechanism in a manner refueling. And like any claims by Ronson was not. IMCO not copy just lazy, in my opinion.

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Yurii

15.12.2009 21:44

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Japanese can not stand, but in general this is all very interesting)))

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Hartman

15.12.2009 22:01

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Yurii writes: Japanese can not stand, but in general this is all very interesting)))



Well, I will get more. :) Those are made in occupied Japan in version a-la Ronson - there is a very interesting finish, very nice and a lot of manual labor. A gas - the same Maruman very good copies of the 60s to the present day without any repair rabtayut, I have half a dozen of them. Zaima good remontoprigdnye and very tenacious. Kingsway - even elegant. Shitty ones who "zakryvashka" which at petrol flash suppressor, works as a plug for gas. Or rather - not working. What used tires there was - vseravno grass. But it's cheap.

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Yurii

19-12-2009 23:41

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Message Edit 23:42 - 19-12-2009 user Yurii


Spark, presumably, one of the early models (think 1950) engraved on both sides and in working condition. The operating principle is simple - when you press the button to open the protective cover and wheel strike sharply kremen.Takzhe produced modelka with cigarette case (a la Ronson or Evans, yes!).

PS I apologize for the poor quality of the photo.

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Yurii

21.12.2009 00:30

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"Oh, these Russian, think of something can not do anything ..." - tired !!!

ps pictures are not mine, but I could not resist.

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Yurii

21.12.2009 00:33

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That's what I understand art !!! And everyone there bullets reserved for ibeya !!!

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kypexin

Moscow

21.12.2009 1:08

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Yeah ... I saw it on the hammer. It is unclear however, and it is really worth as much as there s anego ask? Or is it "hammer syndrome"?

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